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AMG GT vs Porsche 911: a Teutonic Tumble!



If you didn't know before you know now, Mercedes wants a piece of the Porsche-A pie. With Mercedes announcing pricing for the AMG GT its confirmed, the GT has its sights firmly set on the 911.

Pricing starts at 115,430 for the base GT and will wander its way up to 134,351 for the GT S and assorted packages. If you're curious the 911 Carrera 4S begins at 112,313, 911 GTS 124,689, 911 GT3 137,303 and the Turbo at 165,149.

Pricing is all well and good but what about content you ask? Good question sports fans!

Lets start at the Bar Stool Grand Prix sponsored by Viagra shall we?

There have been plenty of key strokes spilled about the hot new in the V turbo V8 and Porsches famous and fabulous flat six certainly needs no introduction, certainly not by the likes of me. So lets play paint by numbers.

AMG GT: 483 horsepower/ 443 lb-ft of torque
AMG GT S: 503 horsepower/ 479 lb-ft of torque

911 C4S: 395 horsepower/ 325 lb-ft of torque
911 GTS: 424 horsepower/ 325 lb-ft of torque
911 GT3: 469 horsepower/ 325 lb-ft of torque
911 Turbo: 513 horsepower/ 487 lb-ft of torque

Ok but how about application?

AMG GT: 0-60 mph 3.9 seconds/ top speed 189 mph
AMG GT S: 0-60 mph 3.7 seconds/ top speed 193 mph

911 C4S: 0-60 mph 4.3 seconds/ top speed 188 mph
911 GTS: 0-60 mph 4.0 seconds/ top speed 191 mph
911 GT3: 0-60 mph 3.5 seconds/ top speed 196 mph
911 Turbo: 0-60 mph 3.2 seconds/ top speed 195 mph

Of course most of this means very little in the context of real life. Why do we buy cars like these, what is the exchange? Enjoyment above all, so which will make for a more enjoyable experience? Well naturally that is difficult without seat time, however we can ask ourselves what are the demands we have on a vehicle like this?

Daily commuting is not one, well not one thats paramount anyways. Top speed is out, handing is certainly important (but again not the be all end all of street enjoyment), acceleration feels great but its still not supreme. My personal opinion is touring, sport touring. After all thats what the GT class of car is for Grand Touring...

So in the context of Grand Touring, which car would you like to wrap yourself in? The spartan environment of a Porsche or the sumptuous coddling of the AMG?

For all of Porsche's racing pedigree and precedent placed on motorsports it simply carries little weight in this discussion. Its a fantastic place to build a brand from absolutely, selling bored enthusiasts dreams of the Nurburgring and fantastic European switch backs, but we know its simply a position to sell product from. Not one that is particularly practical or liveable in the real world.

So maybe the GT won't be able to match Porsche punch for punch on track, but who cares, I'm heading to the lake, "honey are your bags ready?"
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post #2 of 9 (permalink) Old 10-10-2014, 01:57 PM
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Porsche and Mercedes are both great brands but I like the AMG GT better because of its styling. I will of course have to do some test drives before I can say for sure, but i just find that the 911 looks like every other Porsche whereas the AMG GT looks pretty unique when compared to the rest of the Mercedes Benz lineup. On paper it seems like the power and torque are very comparable, so I think that a test drive will be the thing that really elucidates which vehicle is a better match for me.
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Porsche and Mercedes are both great brands but I like the AMG GT better because of its styling. I will of course have to do some test drives before I can say for sure, but i just find that the 911 looks like every other Porsche whereas the AMG GT looks pretty unique when compared to the rest of the Mercedes Benz lineup. On paper it seems like the power and torque are very comparable, so I think that a test drive will be the thing that really elucidates which vehicle is a better match for me.
When it comes to the 911, they have kept proportions similar from the start till now but I think the design changes enough to tell the difference, or maybe that's just the case for me.
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post #4 of 9 (permalink) Old 10-11-2014, 10:41 AM
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you don't buy a Porsche for design just like you don't buy a Merc for out and out performance...
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you don't buy a Porsche for design just like you don't buy a Merc for out and out performance...
that is true, there's so much more about a porsche that' makes it amazing. on the plus side, to anyone who has payed attention to the design of their vehicles... great design is a plus side to buying one.
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Having spent lots of time on the track with Porsches and years with them as street cars, I would have to say my track experience with the GTS was an eye opener. Not a GT-3, but very trackable and a heck of a lot more comfortable. It is a true GT car while the Porsche is more precise and taut at the expense of ultimate comfort. The AMG is a huge leap for the brand and a truly impressive drive.
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Design isn't the only reason why I buy a car but it definitely factors in as a part of the decision. I don't see how it couldn't.
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no one said it didn't, but its not usually the prime motivator, it can break the deal yes and seal one as well, but never will design be the out and out driving reason buying occurs IMO.
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And now the 911 is set to come out with a hybrid powertrain, these numbers will only get better and of course pricing much higher, but as always...worth every penny. Something good enough to have me hold out on an AMG GT to see what the hybrid 911 is going to be like.
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